tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post6329751649294982758..comments2024-03-28T02:32:17.979-07:00Comments on EU Law Analysis: Citizens’ Rights after Brexit: A Personal PerspectiveSteve Peershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-24894676713920261052022-12-03T01:51:57.958-08:002022-12-03T01:51:57.958-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283975586979243831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-41210722083797252982018-03-29T01:41:12.689-07:002018-03-29T01:41:12.689-07:00Oh sure, but I didn't have far-right wing revo...Oh sure, but I didn't have far-right wing revolution in the UK on my list as one of the risks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620408686789208049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-10083416396780805052018-03-23T06:20:35.676-07:002018-03-23T06:20:35.676-07:00You never know .. Maybe they won't. . But hone...You never know .. Maybe they won't. . But honestly knowing the Spanish love of paperwork & bureaucracy, I'll eat my hat if they don't apply it to the letter . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-4335167409890288072018-03-23T05:29:50.520-07:002018-03-23T05:29:50.520-07:00It's only an option for EU27 countries to have...It's only an option for EU27 countries to have their own "settled status" process for UK citizens there - hopefully there will be nothing in what Spain and others do that would mess up UK citizens with permanent residence, or other status, there, although there will be equivalent concerns about whether people might fall through the cracks or administrative errors are made if such a process is applied. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-66814163422164488882018-03-23T04:34:19.554-07:002018-03-23T04:34:19.554-07:00I have permanent residence in Spain as when I firs...I have permanent residence in Spain as when I first arrived (I am a UK national) I had 2 jobs and my partner (Spanish national) was in part time work while she raised our daughter (also a Spanish national) . This situation continued long enough for me to apply for and successfully obtain permanent residence . Since then the economic situation has become worse and worse .. First I lost my weekend job and now only have one job during the week then my partners boss decided to close the shop and she is now drifting in and out of temporary 3 month jobs or worse cash in hand work .. Pretty worried that I was no longer exercising treaty rights I was relieved to find that being permanent meant that my residency was no longer subject to economic requirements. Now of course that is all in the air and I am pretty sure that as a one wage family I don't have a snowballs chance in hell of successfully getting the new status .. Worse still I can't take my Spanish partner and daughter back to the UK as I would need to be earning in the region of 25 grand . My permanent residence certificate counts for nothing after brexit and I have the brexiters to thank for that . And before any troll says "it was your decision to move so live with it" (I've heard it a hundred times) I will remind them I moved here in 2008 ... Before any referendum was even thought off . I moved with the reasonable opinion I had the right to live here with my family . Now I am looking at possibly being separated from them .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-22270849092906168692018-03-22T14:55:24.086-07:002018-03-22T14:55:24.086-07:00Hi Steve!
Loved your 3-day meeting! Thank you for ...Hi Steve!<br />Loved your 3-day meeting! Thank you for sharing your experience, makes me feel less 'abnormal' among my 'Rule Britannia' singing colleagues!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-76529152369132760702018-03-22T09:48:39.818-07:002018-03-22T09:48:39.818-07:00Good article.
I've always been of the view, ...Good article. <br /><br />I've always been of the view, that moving to and living in another country (EU or otherwise)!is unlikely to be risk free.<br /><br />A lesson for all.John Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-61427666893966812592018-03-22T09:45:41.814-07:002018-03-22T09:45:41.814-07:00Last paragraph very telling - people who have bene...Last paragraph very telling - people who have benefited from coming here or who are the children of people who came her who then vote against helping others to do the same. The whole thing is such a mess. And meanwhile in among all these major problems for families, all of us UK citizens are about to lose Freedom of Movement if we dont stay in the Single Market - yet no-one is speaking of this - hence I started the Big EU Passport Campaign.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855581921877310697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-80519425771245466282018-03-22T01:09:05.558-07:002018-03-22T01:09:05.558-07:00Thanks Steve, an interesting post, and evidence th...Thanks Steve, an interesting post, and evidence that, if the economy is expendable in pursuit of the will of the people, the “little people” are just collateral damage. <br />Clive Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734079828281213063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-19344747079348879982018-03-22T00:03:03.341-07:002018-03-22T00:03:03.341-07:00Great post!Great post!visiitkaardidhttp://inker.ee/visiitkaardid-ja-visiitkaartide-trukkimine/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-68849187022438803782018-03-21T23:31:45.839-07:002018-03-21T23:31:45.839-07:00Excellent insight by analogy - time to share this ...Excellent insight by analogy - time to share this piece.Waseemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-20782363575651188362018-03-21T18:23:23.313-07:002018-03-21T18:23:23.313-07:00tahnk you for a very good article. one incredible ...tahnk you for a very good article. one incredible shift is indeed the reassrances and strong affirmations made during the campaign regarding the rights of EU citizens exercising FoM ( both UK in EU and EU27 in the UK), and how very quickly and easily they went against what they has previously stated. They were given an opportunity by the EU, a week after art 50 was triggered-to keep all those exercising FoM with the chance for arrangements to remain exactly the same- such an easy option for all ( including the gov). May ignored it, and put settled status forward. And again in teh vote in Parliament, they d not take the recommendation of teh HoL into account. No wonder EU citizens in the UK feel incredibly hard done by by the gov. Especially when we are then referred to as bargaining chips, and after 2 yrs, are still in limbo, looking more likely that a great number will face huge prbs with the SS- refusals and loosing the right to access our data to see on what ground it has been refused. Sadly we have come to see a side of the Uk none of us could see- it undermines confidence, trust in a country where we chose to live, and for many of us, difficult as we have children with British citizens, so our right to family life is not taken into account- for those who face not being granted SS. <br /> <br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17052260492425886634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-27129176970588519472018-03-21T12:21:38.205-07:002018-03-21T12:21:38.205-07:00Steve, I am in touch withg so many EU nationals wo...Steve, I am in touch withg so many EU nationals working here, paying tax, NOT claiming benefits ( we leave that to the lazy BritsOST of applying for citizenship is huge over £1k per person and as many families do the low paid, caring jobs Brits won't touch with a bargepole, finding the money is an enormous chore. And then there's the utterly stupid Citizen test...75% pass or you're out. I doubt if many Brits could answer some of the questions (How long were the Romans in Britain). The Home Office has a policy of 'Creating a Hostile Environment' and boy, are they! As for the Brits in the EU...they don't know whether they will be able to trade cross- border...they will certainly have problems if they rtry to return to the UK! It is a mess. The only people who will come out of it smiling are the rich, MPs and racistsCarol Hedgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10359578624109905400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-24751243979700996642018-03-21T08:49:43.841-07:002018-03-21T08:49:43.841-07:00Thanks for this.
My mother in law has 3 of her 4 ...Thanks for this.<br /><br />My mother in law has 3 of her 4 children living and working in the UK for many years. It a disgrace that both the UK and EU are so ready to give up her rights to have a family life after Brexit. This was not on the cards when her children choose to make their lives in the UK! And in case any nasty trolls our out there....they are all net contributors to the UK economy.... never taking any benefits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-43948172155838040232018-03-21T07:29:27.039-07:002018-03-21T07:29:27.039-07:00Thanks for bringing your personal story to the tab...Thanks for bringing your personal story to the table, and your continued valuable analysis. I left the UK for the US just in time to see Brexit and President Trump. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688781160507810482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-65543404763866959092018-03-21T05:47:10.528-07:002018-03-21T05:47:10.528-07:00Thanks for this clear, thoughtful piece. Thanks for this clear, thoughtful piece. Fleurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-41313382624589999272018-03-21T02:40:08.417-07:002018-03-21T02:40:08.417-07:00Obviously these trolls are more than happy to see ...Obviously these trolls are more than happy to see hundreds of thousands of British pensioners, currently residing in France, Spain etc, turn up at Dover, homeless, and ready to block up the NHS that is only just about managing - and that's with the help of EU nurses and doctors! No wonder the UK is heading down the pan with ignorant, illiterate people like "Unknown" and Steve Christie permitted to vote in the referendum, while so many UK tax paying Brits had no vote!Tilouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424809860993591593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-26516462256069985192018-03-21T02:31:56.419-07:002018-03-21T02:31:56.419-07:00Hi Steve, thanks for sharing this with us, exactly...Hi Steve, thanks for sharing this with us, exactly some of the thoughts regards trust of UKgov and Home Office. My wife is EU national, and I'm hoping that the Scottish Govt can get devolved rights over the whole immigration issue. Our problem is most folk migrate from Scotland, for whatever reason, yet the few coming in are often singled out despite being useful and indeed essential members of the small communities they stay in. Several high profile expulsion battles in last few years. <br />I see even you have trolls with blinkered, biased, ignorance frothing at the keyboards.<br />They have so little understanding or concept of the reality! <br />Thank you for your excellent post and work! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08545454291696180226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-60843233490394419242018-03-21T01:24:22.767-07:002018-03-21T01:24:22.767-07:00Thanks for this blog, prof.
What's very clear ...Thanks for this blog, prof.<br />What's very clear is that we're all losing out on this.<br /><br />From my own personal story, I'm British, but my wife is from the EU27 and because she has now been at home looking after our kids for 7 years our security is far from certain with no, as I understand it, guarantees, even in the withdrawal agreement. Difficult choices ahead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-7327746390209454122018-03-21T01:12:05.664-07:002018-03-21T01:12:05.664-07:00That's a...patriotic use of the English langua...That's a...patriotic use of the English language there. The issue isn't whether the world comes to the UK, it's what happens to EU27 citizens who moved here before Brexit. Both Leave campaigns said they could stay, but you obviously have a neo-Nazi take on this. Be well. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-34364268937604014852018-03-21T01:08:25.606-07:002018-03-21T01:08:25.606-07:00You may be aware (just kidding, I'm sure you a...You may be aware (just kidding, I'm sure you aren't) that EU free movement law allows people to come only if they are either working or self-sufficient. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-57180468384669200962018-03-21T01:06:56.669-07:002018-03-21T01:06:56.669-07:00Pretty sure they are UK citizens. I think we shoul...Pretty sure they are UK citizens. I think we should stick to criticising people's views and behaviour, not their nationality. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-90534076598669615932018-03-20T14:00:50.514-07:002018-03-20T14:00:50.514-07:00'Remember your humanity, and forget the rest,&...'Remember your humanity, and forget the rest,' said Bertrand Russell in 'Man's Peril'. If only!Tony Simpsonhttp://www.spokesmanbooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-26098655892094614082018-03-20T13:46:07.059-07:002018-03-20T13:46:07.059-07:00Take all EU citizens out of Uk S this country is f...Take all EU citizens out of Uk S this country is for british citizen,ens and family and not for world to settle in this small national.<br />Remember adopt work for year and leVe UK nation for 3 years not became permanent creatures or become leech.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11491275772480231209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-10430979541370287712018-03-20T12:16:33.531-07:002018-03-20T12:16:33.531-07:00trying to keep the maggots out peo[le can come to ...trying to keep the maggots out peo[le can come to work if you want my taxes fuck off and get a job or starve Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10727993289763147228noreply@blogger.com