tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post1444070774632077196..comments2024-03-29T04:53:16.437-07:00Comments on EU Law Analysis: All of life is changed: The impact of Brexit on UK nationals living in other EU Member StatesSteve Peershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-52317745030412600322022-02-16T01:30:22.819-08:002022-02-16T01:30:22.819-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Aaaaccountinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15977216622043685865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-4451477686882711562018-07-15T10:19:31.987-07:002018-07-15T10:19:31.987-07:00thanksthanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-73600018111977559982017-08-25T13:41:50.765-07:002017-08-25T13:41:50.765-07:00The EU's position is acquired rights - ie keep...The EU's position is acquired rights - ie keep the rights you have now, except (it seems) in one country only for UK citizens - whereas the UK offers fewer rights than at present for both groups.Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-17748903178861256752017-08-25T07:14:30.500-07:002017-08-25T07:14:30.500-07:00The EU will not offer local voting rights to UK ci...The EU will not offer local voting rights to UK citizens (it arises from EU citizenship). Which tells me that Barnier et al cannot offer anything to the British that goes beyond Treaties and Directives. Which means clear limitations on a Brit's rights in the EU. (At the same time, the EU asks for un-watered EU rights for EU citizens in the UK.) So I'm a bit puzzled that Barnier has offered "lifetime" rights. Doesn't that go beyond the Directives? Is he mandated to offer anything beyond the rights TCNs enjoy today? MariAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-60609532034030906042017-08-09T10:48:28.764-07:002017-08-09T10:48:28.764-07:00To clarify further... what I am saying is that, if...To clarify further... what I am saying is that, if the S1 form ceases to be valid after Brexit, those UK citizens living in EU27 countries WHO RELY ON A UK S1 FORM, eg UK pensioners, are in danger of losing their rights to health care paid for by the UK, in their country of residence. They use the S1 to register in their country's health system. For them the EHIC also comes by virtue of having an S1. Workers in Belgium, France etc. are contributing to the local security system and of course have health cover like you. Vexednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-65624490047508011672017-08-09T10:24:50.485-07:002017-08-09T10:24:50.485-07:00"And I've never had an S1 form to access ..."And I've never had an S1 form to access health insurance in Belgium. I live here and pay social security contributions in Belgium thus I have health care. I have never seen a Form S1."<br /><br />You have never seen an S1 Form ? <br /><br />Well unless you are one of these groups: UK pensioners, cross-border workers, posted workers and civil servants, then you are not entitled to an S1 form.<br /><br />See my post above, to help clarify things for you.<br /><br />You can however benefit from an EHIC card, if you haven't already got one, from the Belgium administrators, to make sure you are covered during short-term travel and for unplanned treatment within other countries of the EU. <br /><br /><br />Vexednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-53308503321849868332017-08-02T07:32:26.881-07:002017-08-02T07:32:26.881-07:00Rubbish..
"Who can benefit from the [EHIR]c...Rubbish.. <br /><br />"Who can benefit from the [EHIR]card?<br />To be eligible for a card, you must be insured by or covered by a state social security system in any Member State of the European Union, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway or Switzerland. Each separate member of a family travelling should have their own card.<br />People from non-EU countries who are legally residing in the EU and are covered by a state social security scheme are also eligible for a card. However, nationals from non-EU countries cannot use their EHIC for medical treatment in Denmark, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland."<br /><br />Source <br />http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=563<br /><br />And I've never had an S1 form to access health insurance in Belgium. I live here and pay social security contributions in Belgium thus I have health care. I have never seen a Form S1.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10449184173026460086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-77273405861395064372017-08-02T07:23:28.924-07:002017-08-02T07:23:28.924-07:00And most could not vote in the Brexit referendum, ...And most could not vote in the Brexit referendum, because their rights were removed by Britain. General elections and brexit were not a choice but disenfranchised by the UK.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10449184173026460086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-65615715323517627772017-07-17T06:11:15.122-07:002017-07-17T06:11:15.122-07:00Your comment speaks for all UK pensioners in all t...Your comment speaks for all UK pensioners in all the other EU countries. In my own, private insurance is unobtainable.Mary Guttelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-12413902617120895752017-07-10T10:10:41.359-07:002017-07-10T10:10:41.359-07:00Health care rights...
To clarify a commonly held ...Health care rights...<br /><br />To clarify a commonly held misconception regarding the health insurance of British people who are long term residents of E27 counties:<br /><br />An EHIC is only for unplanned medical treatment during temporary stays in another EU country. It provides reimbursement of costs incurred, on the same terms as nationals of the country you are in, according to the rules and rates of the country where the treatment was received. <br /><br />UK nationals who are long term residents in the EU-27 cannot use their EHIC in the country where they live. It is only for short-term travel and unplanned treatment within other countries of the EU. <br /><br />Currently, in order to live legally in an EU-27 country as a UK national, you must have permanent health cover according to the system in that country. UK pensioners, cross-border workers, posted workers and civil servants are entitled to an S1 form from the UK. They must register the S1 with the authorities in their country of residence to obtain permanent health care in their country of residence, paid for automatically by the British government. Without an S1 comprehensive private health insurance is required.<br /><br />If the S1 system disappears after Brexit and the UK government does not agree on a replacement, and does not continue to honour these payments, this will mean UK citizens living in the EU-27 will lose their current rights in terms of paid health care in their country of residence. They will not be able to use EHIC cards to cover health insurance costs in their country of residence. This will be a very important loss of rights for these UK citizens in the EU-27.<br /><br />It is not at all clear that UK Government appreciates this situation, given their silence on this matter.Vexednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-18540230698137817492017-07-10T07:17:23.551-07:002017-07-10T07:17:23.551-07:00The Uk is so multicultural. Was in London recently...The Uk is so multicultural. Was in London recently and am Australian living in France. England is shooting itself in the foot if it follows Brexit. The NHS is I think 60% EU doctors etc like in France. Cambridge science labs EU and the car industry! What are you guys going to do? Its such an intricate thing to split 43 years of law contracts etc. Will never work and I personallly think as the banks and industry leave the UK will have to rethink things again and have a referendum. PS Where will you guys find the money to pay back the EU the Queen, as the coffers dont have it Im sure!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05083039773849256271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-58038798738813501892017-07-09T01:36:13.304-07:002017-07-09T01:36:13.304-07:00https://ec.europa.eu/citizens-initiative/31/public...https://ec.europa.eu/citizens-initiative/31/public/index.do<br /><br />When registering the Retaining European Citizenship Initiative, the Commission highlighted regulations on third-country nationals.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09440552649666558935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-85647302267425053342017-07-08T15:52:04.255-07:002017-07-08T15:52:04.255-07:00The European Court of Human Rights has said that S...The European Court of Human Rights has said that States can, if they wish, withdraw voting rights from citizens who are no longer resident. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-68117854164189833682017-07-08T12:02:11.269-07:002017-07-08T12:02:11.269-07:00there are an estimated 900,000 UK nationals in the...there are an estimated 900,000 UK nationals in the EU-27. Most of them do not vote in UK general elections.<br /><br />Most of them are not PERMITTED to vote in UK general elections (surely this is a breach of human rights?)Disenfranchisedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11859012290511892187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-73245796836857062322017-07-08T08:23:28.958-07:002017-07-08T08:23:28.958-07:00Healthcare. The EHIC is important for Brits in UK...Healthcare. The EHIC is important for Brits in UK for short term travel to EU. However for British residents in EU27 the most important healthcare issue is the S1 reciprocal payment. Here in Spain where access to healthcare is by contributions for all (normally of course by employed through their social security). For British state pensioners the S1 payment from DWP is critical. Without it private insurance is prohibitive as is paying into a special state fund at €157 a month and full cost of prescriptions. Without S1 or private then residence right is lost both under EU and national law. UK failed to reassure Brit pensioners in Spain (and others)and has left them as sacrificial lambs.Steve Greenhttp://www.prasino.eunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-77178357926654412692017-07-08T07:15:45.592-07:002017-07-08T07:15:45.592-07:00! 'Most of them do not vote in UK general elec...! 'Most of them do not vote in UK general elections' you mean CANNOT, as our rights to vote have already been removed by the UK Govt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com